‘My life wasn’t as great as I wanted, then I started a podcast’

They say that in life, the darkest hour comes before the dawn. That you have to go down before you can see that you can have something else.

It was certainly true for me.

I started my podcast, A Life Of Greatness, because my life wasn’t as great as I wanted it to be.

I had a fabulous job working as a breakfast radio producer, but the 4am starts combined with being a mum to a 2 and 4-year-old were hard. I felt like I had jet lag the whole time.

The guests we had on the show would talk about mindfulness, about living a healthy life and it just sunk in that this stuff works. I was lucky to be exposed to these great people and kept thinking, what is it about them?

I started the podcast to help others who were struggling and in the process I also changed my own life. I take a lesson from each guest. A spiritual mentor of mine said to me, ‘You’re going to learn a lot from interviewing these people.’

Hamish Blake talks about being mindful, especially with the kids. If he has enough time to be mindful with his kids, surely I do too. Now, when I’m with my kids the phone goes away, it’s time to play with them and really be immersed in what they want to do.

Joe Dispenza who wrote Breaking The Habit of Being Yourself, talks about changing your personality to change your life. It’s more than just a positive mindset, when I looked at things with a different lens on, those things started changing and so did my reaction to them.

One of Gretchen Rubin’s commandments is ‘Being Gretchen’. Just be who you are, don’t pretend to like sports if you don’t like sports, being your authentic self is what will make you shine.

Hugh van Cuylenburg, who runs The Resilience Project, talks about making yourself and kids resilient and focuses on empathy a lot. I try to embody an empathetic view point, you never know what someone is going through.

I now ensure I’m present and the best person I can be when I’m around someone. Listening is important. Give people space to talk, don’t give advice. I had a friend with a problem recently, I just listened to her talk about it and by the end she’d sorted her own problem out. Giving people space to allow them to be comfortable enough to share their issues is the key.

When it comes to choosing my guests, I ask myself, ‘What has this person got to share?’ It could be a story or thought leader with strategies to make their life great.

There’s a certain something that makes people great, there’s a pattern.

I think greatness is basically being the kindest, most empathetic person that you can be. I think it’s being your authentic self, ensuring that every connection you make is meaningful and being mindful in the company of other people.